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Definition of "Personal Mobility Device" - One person's lack of compassion does not equal another's comfort.
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Definition of "Personal Mobility Device"
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From: (Anonymous) Date: July 19th, 2006 12:37 am (UTC) (Link)
Let me preface this by saying that I'm not trying to attack you in any way. I have chosen to remain anonymous because I don't want to be involved in this any more than as a source of information.

That having been said, I think you should know that FSA isn't covered by the ADA since it is a religious organization. It is incorporated as such and therefore is not required to adhere to the ADA.

Furthermore, the PMD sections of the ADA have to do with roads, not accessibility to events, buildings and the like.

Also, the ADA specifically says that a person can be required to show proof of their disablility.

Oh, and one more thing: To be in compliance with ADA, all FSA would have to do is to offer you some kind of assistance. In other words, if you said you wanted to bring your motorized scooter, FSA could say "No, but we'll give you rides in a golf cart." This would bring them into compliance.

For more information:
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/q%26aeng02.htm

Specifically look at the section on public accommodations.
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fixx From: fixx Date: July 19th, 2006 09:55 am (UTC) (Link)
Furthermore, the PMD sections of the ADA have to do with roads, not accessibility to events, buildings and the like.

That's a VERY good point. And the "roads" at Ramblewood are not really "roads"... They are privately owned by Ramblewood, and yet people drive cars on them. There wasn't a single day that I did not see at least one car or one van or one truck working it way along those crowded paths. I had no trouble avoiding them on my little scooter.

Those cars.. Did you happen to notice what they were doing? Well much of the time the were people who had just arrive and were _driving_around_ and *looking* for a place to camp. Not looking where they were going. One of these days someone is going to drive over someone and you will say, "That guy who brought his scooter to stake out a camp site with had the right idea"

And in case you weren't one of the people I spoke to, that was the original first reason I brought it. I correctly guessed that the scooter would not only allow me to cover more ground faster than my car but a heck of a lot safer in terms of those around me when driving the car, and with less strain on my hips than if I were walking.

I had other plans for the scooter as well, such as the solar storage batteries. Like you, I did not assume people would be cool with it. But then I did not think I'd see a man on a Segway, another on a bicycle or anyone on Roller Skates.

And in case you were not aware, the campground owner gave me permission the very first day to ride my scooter on his campground. If he were not authorized to grant this permission, why did he do it??

As I see it, if some non-staff people occasionally drive cars through FSG, and staffers constantly drive golf carts and bicycles, it stands to reason I should be able to ride an itty-bitty scooter.

Hey, for that matter, do you have ANY idea how many errands I ran for staffers while on my scooter? I don't know why I didn't think of that before? To think I had considered signing up for the staff next year. After all of this I can see that wouldn't go over very well. I'm some kind of scooter outlaw now. Oooh I'm bad, I drive a toy!

But now seriously. You are trying to tell me that the ADA only covers PMDs driven on roads??? I think you are mistaken there. Would you care to post me a link to that as well?
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