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They are asking the wrong God Damned Question - One person's lack of compassion does not equal another's comfort.
One person's lack of comprehension does not equal another's consent.
They are asking the wrong God Damned Question
in this article they claim:
"Almost nine in 10 people said the reference to God belongs
in the pledge despite constitutional questions about the separation
of church and state, according to an Associated Press poll. "

However I doubt the question was phrased this way:

"Would you prefer we remove the two words added to the 'Pledge Of Allegiance' in 1954, being 'Under God' OR would you prefer we remove the Pledge from our schools ENTIRELY."

And I say this because I see it as one or the other, myself. I do not even see why we even need to have our children recite the pledge in our schools anyway. Where I attended school we had several students whose parents were foreigh diplomats or whatever so they did not recite the pledge on national and ot religious reasons.

At that time I was an *atheist*, with both Jewish and Presbyterian parents who *accepted* my chosen non-faith. I suppose I too could have sat out the pledge but I chose not to because I did not want others to have on more reason to pick on me.

Peer pressure. Yeah! Kids have enough to deal with without requiring activities that threaten their beliefs, even if they choose to believe in no God or a "different god".

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ksatyr From: ksatyr Date: March 24th, 2004 03:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm in total agreement here, no pledge. I'm an atheist and a Brit, had I been in school in the US I would have refused to say the pledge on both those grounds. From around the age of 8 I seriously doubted the existance of a god or gods as forced upon me by my Christian/catholic mother and Protestant father, and from 12 I had the courage to say it out loud, at least to myself, wondering what would happen. Nothing happened, of course, as a result of that.

As far as I know there are no other countries that insist on such nonsense from their children anymore, what is the point anyway? I bet every single double agent American-born spy said the pledge in school. This kind of brain washing doesn't work.

god save the Queen.
nosebeepbear From: nosebeepbear Date: March 24th, 2004 05:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm a firm believer in God. He has an important place in my heart, my life, my home. If you have a conversation with me personally, the subject of my beliefs may very well come up, and I'll expect that to be treated with as much respect as I give anything you say to me (note: respect does *not* mean agreement).

But are we a "Nation under God" just because *I* believe in Him?? Not even close. His name has NO PLACE in the Pledge, in schools, in government, or any other place where people who have different beliefs than mine are supposedly represented. In God *I* trust, but that doesn't give the government the right to include you in that every time you make a cash transaction. True separation of church and state is the only way to ever achieve the religious freedom which in theory this country was founded on. What are we afraid of? That God will disappear if we allow others not to believe in Him? I'm happy to say that *my* faith is stronger than that.
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