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PETA.... I really don't know what to make of this - One person's lack of compassion does not equal another's comfort.
One person's lack of comprehension does not equal another's consent.
PETA.... I really don't know what to make of this

I guess I should have known there was something wrong with PETA when they supplied data supporting my arguments for vegetarian reform... yes I'm serious! :-)
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liatha From: liatha Date: August 4th, 2005 11:32 pm (UTC) (Link)
you didnt know about this sort of thing?

They are infamous for stealing peoples pets out of thier yards and killing them.

They state that thier primary mission is the EXTINCTION of all breeds of household pet.

They publish a graphically violent "comic book" which they shove under the noses of small children, entitled "Your mommy murders bunny rabbits"... with an illustration of a psychotic June Cleaver on the cover, wielding a gore covered knife in one hand and a dying rabbit in the other.

Those people are fucking insane, and need to be put away.
fixx From: fixx Date: August 4th, 2005 11:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
They state that thier primary mission is the EXTINCTION of all breeds of household pet.

Please excuse my disbelief... can you provide a link?
liatha From: liatha Date: August 5th, 2005 12:07 am (UTC) (Link)
it's on thier website. Or at least it used to be. Part of an interview they posted with thier new president about a year or so ago
liatha From: liatha Date: August 5th, 2005 01:21 am (UTC) (Link)
you got me wondering, so I went looking.

They've really sterilized thier site. They no longer have that interview available anywhere I can find, nor do they have the PDF file of the comic book online any longer.

I find that very interesting.
liatha From: liatha Date: August 5th, 2005 01:28 am (UTC) (Link)
I did finally locate the link for the comic book order page and the story about their recommended uses for it. It's on one of peta's companion sites. Here is the link.

fixx From: fixx Date: August 5th, 2005 02:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
Fur Is Dead

Wow! Still kids see a lot of scary looking stuff, and I tend to believe that if I'd seen this exact same image when in second or third grades I'd have said, "So!?" because I already knew that my soft as butter "bungy waggit" (bunny wabbit) puppet was made from the hide of a very real innocent bunny wabbit and it sort of offended me that a bunny had to die to make my toy, but I also knew animals had to die to make our dinners too.

Although, come to think of it, I actually recall knowing that some people seemed think "Sheep-SKIN" was the SAME thing as woven wool, like they could take it off the sheep without hurting it. Yah Right. If people don't want PETA and other weirdo's to be able to affect the minds of their children with inflammatory comic books, then the obvious thing to do is to educate them about the facts, good, bad and ugly first.
liatha From: liatha Date: August 5th, 2005 03:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
It's not a question of showing shit like that to 2nd and 3rd graders (8 and 9 year olds) it's a question of them shoving shit like that in the faces of 3 and 4 year olds.

There is no excuse, ever, anywhere, for terrorizing small children
ksatyr From: ksatyr Date: August 5th, 2005 03:29 am (UTC) (Link)
PETA, here, is guilty of not keeping tabs on what their employees do out in the field offices. To quote the article: "PETA President Ingrid Newkirk indicated that any dumping of dead animals in garbage bins was in violation of PETA protocol and occurred without the knowledge of organization officials." Note that she's only talking about the dumping, not that animals were euthanized. In fact, if you do a little more research, you'll find that PETA got involved in North Carolina after learning about conditions at shelters there... PETA investigators found that animals were dying in the shelters or being put to death inhumanely.

Having defended them just a little, now I'm going to complain some. PETA constantly have own goals like this, for additional examples see how protesting against the way KFC slaughter chickens actually increased custom and complaining to Arafat when a donkey was used as a suicide bombing vehicle that killed people didn't give them good press.

I also happen to think that shock tactics do not work. Throwing red paint over someone wearing a fur coat isn't going to stop them wearing fur, and you can be sure that person is going to care even less about your cause after you do it. Hell, they'll just go out and buy another fur coat, which further supports the industry. Trying to get to fur wearers through their kids also won't work, so scaring the hell out of children with comic strips depicting animals being ripped apart is simply cruel.

People just don't think ahead enough about the consequences of their actions. They have a cause and want to pursue it, but in the end it blinds them and they lose out.
moodymuse From: moodymuse Date: August 5th, 2005 03:44 am (UTC) (Link)
It's a good principle, protecting animals and such, but this particular organization is run by crazy radicals. Any organization run by these type of people is bound to accomplish nothing and promote chaos and.

who loves critters but will never support PETA
browneyedgirl65 From: browneyedgirl65 Date: August 5th, 2005 05:22 am (UTC) (Link)
One very interesting thing to do with Peta is to go through their organizational structure. You'll find out that there are THREE members in Peta. It is NOT a NGO organized as a volunteer/membership one (I used to know the numbers, there are different kinds of 401(c)(3) designations, and many of them don't actually have memberships, only a board of directors. All that money that gets donated to them, is handled by THREE people. Two of them have extensive criminal records, again I would have to look this up. Pacheco is one of them. The book Hijacking the Humane Movement (while itself a little extreme on the other end of the pole) provides an excellent analysis of Peta. I used to do dog showing and obedience competition as well as hunting and field trials, and these people are completely nuts. Yes, they do in fact advocate that no one own pets, that all animals should be in their "wild state" -- there was a television interview some years back where one of the Peta leaders said this. They also have numerous ties to ALF (animal liberation front) which does things like bomb out research places, etc, anywhere they think might have animal testing and such go on -- this organisation is a criminal one, and a good deal of Peta funds go to their legal defense fund...maybe not quite what you thought your donations would go to?

If you google online for Peta, you will doubtless find much of this information available, with better citations than a five year old memory like mine can provide...

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